Lucerne said

Dormouse said

John Doe said

Lucerne said
NGG (and now her crew) is notoriously guarded when it comes to her content leaking as well as her personal identity. NGG herself has taken a huge step back so there's less copyright enforcement. I don't think her friends are as protective of the content as she is. 
She caught wind of her content being posted here and forced the old Admin's hand. 
DFP is the same way regarding his content. He doesn't seem to have caught on to the forum's revival for now. 
As much as I didn't like the old Admin's attitude at times and certain viewpoints, copyright enforcement is pretty serious. Noncompliance could shutdown the whole site. 
Which leads to my next point regarding the thread topic. 
The vast majority of ENF and CMNF content is copyrighted. If the forum restricts too much  it's going to become nothing but piracy. And we absolutely don't want this forum to become known by producer's as a piracy haven. 
  

Who are NGG and DFP? Do we have any of their videos on the forum at the moment?
  

DFP is Dragon Fire Productions, I think.  I guess NGG is Naked Garden Girl.
  

 
NGG is NaughtyGardenGirl & Friends.  I don't think there should be any cause for alarm though. That wasn't my intention in bringing up the old restrictions.  Just adding context that it wasn't an attitude or preference thing. 
  

Lucerne my friend. Would like you to chime in on this: ** you do not have permission to see this link **

So there will be a whole bunch of different threads involving naked women with different contexts.

That's why the use of AI to create ENF scenarios is something to really consider.  It could be used to bring to life stories from Literotica, or even the ENF legends like Trackjim's Unintentional Nudist or Donnylaja's work.  Or even something as over the top as the Mailgirls or Blanke Schande.  Because it would be pretty impossible to hire actresses and actors to actually film it with any good quality.  

But in any case, I think we just want to see naked women.  Maybe not in all contexts, but at least most.  I tend to avoid hardcore sex scenes without context, but everyone has their own preference (there are a lot of clips involving a woman being locked out, and she ends up fucking the person who "saved" her for example).  

Dormouse said

John Doe said

Lucerne said
NGG (and now her crew) is notoriously guarded when it comes to her content leaking as well as her personal identity. NGG herself has taken a huge step back so there's less copyright enforcement. I don't think her friends are as protective of the content as she is. 
She caught wind of her content being posted here and forced the old Admin's hand. 
DFP is the same way regarding his content. He doesn't seem to have caught on to the forum's revival for now. 
As much as I didn't like the old Admin's attitude at times and certain viewpoints, copyright enforcement is pretty serious. Noncompliance could shutdown the whole site. 
Which leads to my next point regarding the thread topic. 
The vast majority of ENF and CMNF content is copyrighted. If the forum restricts too much  it's going to become nothing but piracy. And we absolutely don't want this forum to become known by producer's as a piracy haven. 
  

Who are NGG and DFP? Do we have any of their videos on the forum at the moment?
  

DFP is Dragon Fire Productions, I think.  I guess NGG is Naked Garden Girl.
  

NGG is NaughtyGardenGirl & Friends.  I don't think there should be any cause for alarm though. That wasn't my intention in bringing up the old restrictions.  Just adding context that it wasn't an attitude or preference thing. 

John Doe said

Lucerne said
NGG (and now her crew) is notoriously guarded when it comes to her content leaking as well as her personal identity. NGG herself has taken a huge step back so there's less copyright enforcement. I don't think her friends are as protective of the content as she is. 
She caught wind of her content being posted here and forced the old Admin's hand. 
DFP is the same way regarding his content. He doesn't seem to have caught on to the forum's revival for now. 
As much as I didn't like the old Admin's attitude at times and certain viewpoints, copyright enforcement is pretty serious. Noncompliance could shutdown the whole site. 
Which leads to my next point regarding the thread topic. 
The vast majority of ENF and CMNF content is copyrighted. If the forum restricts too much  it's going to become nothing but piracy. And we absolutely don't want this forum to become known by producer's as a piracy haven. 
  

Who are NGG and DFP? Do we have any of their videos on the forum at the moment?
  

DFP is Dragon Fire Productions, I think.  I guess NGG is Naked Garden Girl.

Lucerne said
NGG (and now her crew) is notoriously guarded when it comes to her content leaking as well as her personal identity. NGG herself has taken a huge step back so there's less copyright enforcement. I don't think her friends are as protective of the content as she is. 
She caught wind of her content being posted here and forced the old Admin's hand. 
DFP is the same way regarding his content. He doesn't seem to have caught on to the forum's revival for now. 
As much as I didn't like the old Admin's attitude at times and certain viewpoints, copyright enforcement is pretty serious. Noncompliance could shutdown the whole site. 
Which leads to my next point regarding the thread topic. 
The vast majority of ENF and CMNF content is copyrighted. If the forum restricts too much  it's going to become nothing but piracy. And we absolutely don't want this forum to become known by producer's as a piracy haven. 
  

Who are NGG and DFP? Do we have any of their videos on the forum at the moment?

She caught wind of her content being posted here and forced the old Admin's hand. 

DFP is the same way regarding his content. He doesn't seem to have caught on to the forum's revival for now. 

As much as I didn't like the old Admin's attitude at times and certain viewpoints, copyright enforcement is pretty serious. Noncompliance could shutdown the whole site. 

Which leads to my next point regarding the thread topic. 

The vast majority of ENF and CMNF content is copyrighted. If the forum restricts too much  it's going to become nothing but piracy. And we absolutely don't want this forum to become known by producer's as a piracy haven. 

ProjectENF said
I've always been mostly focused on the ENF genre of things. My stash has always been fairly vast cause I'm a searcher and a saver. 
Over the years its kind of stretch out into the many sub genres. Exhibitionism is in and of itself "an embarrassing situation to put yourself in" and I think that's why those are so popular. 
The animation scene is nice cause they can really tailor it to subtle or over exaggerated scenarios. 
And then there are other things like "On/Off" where its just filling a void of like hmm...thats not really ENF but still probably is fairly nice to see. 
But its become harder to find videos over the years, just due to paywalls, dcma takedown, and just over all data being lost. 
JAVs have their moments but always devolve into "just porn" which isn't really the vibe... 
I guess you're technically right, is what I'm saying, but its fun to find those gems in the wild. Personally my favorite is re-uploads cause a video I've seen 100 times might be the first time someone's ever seen it. There is just so much out there that the overlap to the sub-enf genres (enf adjacent, as i like to call it) feels like it can overshadow the actual ENF content that we "should be focusing on". 
Also, did ask Admin what the thought process is on the Front Page qualifications are, I will get back to you on that question. 
  

Well, I'm not a very sophisticated guy to be honest. Any scenario that gets my blood rushing qualifies for the front page, or any topic that gets a lot of replies (such as littlegigi's or SixBos's).

It also depends on my schedule. I'm really busy, and whenever I upload a video, I generate subs for it as well if there are a lot of spoken segments. So when I'm busy, I will go for videos or photos so I don't have to sub them.

As for what is allowed / not allowed, I will let the mods guide the direction on that. My only hard rule for now is anything that can potentially cause or is causing legal issues. No matter what you're doing, Big Government is one fight you don't want. I expect rules about what is permissible and what is not will tighten over time, simply because we will get into more trouble the bigger we grow.

If any of you would like to help me with front-paging, I will love the help! Please PM me (you'll need to be a forum regular / mod though, otherwise plenty of sites looking for traffic will want to do this just to astroturf for their own sites).

Over the years its kind of stretch out into the many sub genres. Exhibitionism is in and of itself "an embarrassing situation to put yourself in" and I think that's why those are so popular. 

The animation scene is nice cause they can really tailor it to subtle or over exaggerated scenarios. 

And then there are other things like "On/Off" where its just filling a void of like hmm...thats not really ENF but still probably is fairly nice to see. 

But its become harder to find videos over the years, just due to paywalls, dcma takedown, and just over all data being lost. 

JAVs have their moments but always devolve into "just porn" which isn't really the vibe... 

I guess you're technically right, is what I'm saying, but its fun to find those gems in the wild. Personally my favorite is re-uploads cause a video I've seen 100 times might be the first time someone's ever seen it. There is just so much out there that the overlap to the sub-enf genres (enf adjacent, as i like to call it) feels like it can overshadow the actual ENF content that we "should be focusing on". 

Also, did ask Admin what the thought process is on the Front Page qualifications are, I will get back to you on that question. 

I must stress again, it doesn’t bother me too much? At the end of the day, I think I’d rather more content be uploaded to keep the community alive and talking rather than having super strict rules, at the end of day, we all have the power to just “not watch” the stuff being uploaded that isn’t to our liking.

That does get me thinking though… I don’t know if any moderators are equipped / willing to answer this, but how do you guys decide which posts on the forums get put on the main page? My understanding was always that the content on the main page were “the best of the best” of the forums, and if that stuff was limited to just ENF / CMNF / NIP content, I don’t think anyone would mind if the forums were turned into more a general dumping ground for all kinds of content. That said, I feel like some non-ENF videos still get the privilege of being moved to the main page while a lot of really good, genuine ENF content is left buried under mountains of generic videos of women unabashedly showing themselves off for the camera. If the mods are willing to share, I’d love to get some insight on what the process for selecting main page content is.

The old forum was called enf-cmnf(.com), but it wasn't limited to just those two topics; the main focus there, too, was nude-in-public or naked girls.

However, the rules there included some absurd bans—targeting things like BralessForever or NGG, for instance. That was likely down to the admin at the time and his personality.

If we were to limit ourselves strictly to ENF and CMNF here, the forum would be pretty boring—or dead. We don't have any formal rules as of yet, yet most posters stick to the rules from the old site (aside from the specific restrictions). I find that quite remarkable, but also very positive.

I’d love to post more ENF or CMNF content myself, but it’s pretty thin on the ground.

It's not a huge problem. I still see plenty of ENF and NIP stuff, which I love. But it is a shame to feel like there is less of it. I think it partly comes down to lots of the truly good ENF content already having been uploaded in the past, as well as the fact that a lot of ENF content creators have started to not do true ENF. Once they get big they can afford to start going to cities and places where nudity is allowed, which makes it safer for them to create content but it does mean that they are not nervous/embarrassed and nobody around them really cares about seeing a naked woman in the cafe or at the supermarket.

I think my main worry with the forum/site would be the definition continuing to be relaxed. I understand that this kink is relatively niche and so it helps to widen the net as much as possible, so a woman walking down the street or dancing in front of crowd as she washes a car counts as CMNF because there are some men in the crowd and they are wearing clothes. But I'm reminded of the number of times I've seen the definition of "exhibitionism" stretched so much (when I'm looking for porn or adult visual novels) that it seemingly includes 2 people having sex in a bedroom... because technically she is showing her naked body to someone.

I fully agree that the quality of content has gone down. I guess we as mods hold a very liberal position in what is allowed on this forum. And when asked if male nudity is okay, the majority thought this was okay as well. But for me, it completely defeats the purpose of this forum

I guess everyone has something different that turns them on. But it should at least be the scenario/fantasy that should do it here, cause like I said, there are plenty of hot naked girls on the internet. 

I do remove some stuff that is just clearly porn. But other than that, I don't know what we as mods can do. I just hope people start uploading better stuff