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I think the women of this forum would welcome this addition too. We'd all like some equal representation when it came to the embarrassment.
Although I know some men are a bit defensive/opposed to seeing any male nudity, so might be a good idea to put [WARNING! PENISES!] on any thread/subforum you create lol. I'd recommend putting it in the Ladies' Room, but that feels a bit exclusionay to all the non-fems who may also want to see humiliated men covering their tiny dicks as much as we do.
RiskyDanielle said
I think the women of this forum would welcome this addition too. We'd all like some equal representation when it came to the embarrassment.
Although I know some men are a bit defensive/opposed to seeing any male nudity, so might be a good idea to put [WARNING! PENISES!] on any thread/subforum you create lol. I'd recommend putting it in the Ladies' Room, but that feels a bit exclusionay to all the non-fems who may also want to see humiliated men covering their tiny dicks as much as we do.
Personally I disagree. Of couse there is some overlap between ENF and ENM, but a lot people are here for the naked girls. So a sister site (Or brother site I guess), would be a lot better. I have no interest in moderating that
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An ENM/CFNM section would have to be completely separate, so anyone entering would know what to expect.
I have no great desire to see other men naked, but might enjoy seeing situations I could only dream of being in. I have, in the past, posted pictures on a site allowing women the opportunity to see what they want, and enjoyed the feedback received. Such sites seem extremely rare - possibly reflecting a difference in attitude to nudity between men and women.
Members of this forum are mostly here to see naked women, including female members, but some may be enjoying wishful thinking too?
I would certainly like to read the views of other female members.
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Palmie said
there is some overlap between ENF and ENM, but a lot people are here for the naked girls. So a sister site (Or brother site I guess), would be a lot better. I have no interest in moderating that
While I can respect that point of view, I struggle to understand it personally. A moderator may be here wanting to moderate clips of embarrassed naked women, but they may not have a kink for (or actively dislike) peeing content; however there is a peeing thread with clips and videos that they have to moderate. A moderator may say they only have an interest in moderating real women, but there is AI content on the website. I don't really see why the line is drawn at having to see penises, especially when there are plenty of videos on the site that do already include male nudity.
But that's just my view on things. I won't push it if it's not something wanted by enough people.
bitsnbobs said
An ENM/CFNM section would have to be completely separate, so anyone entering would know what to expect.
I agree that it probably would have to be completely separate and not mixed in with the ENF/CMNF stuff (I think that might have been what John Doe was saying when he mentioned it being a subforum, rather than just a new thread/topic).
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Rant time! 😂
I have no objection to an ENM equivalent of this forum. But from what I've seen in the way of changes within general media and the internet, increasingly so over more recent years, I have to point out that in my opinion ENF, and it's related genres, seems to be less available than before.
In the last ten years or so, sites like ASN Story Board, StripGameCentral, AMOC, Fetish Auteur, and others, even including the original of this forum here, have all been 'memory holed'. Now, there were different reasons, or no reasons given, for these removals, but there has been a trend.
Add to that the purge of PornHub (instigated for serious and legitimate reasons, but heavy-handed in its methods to cover its arse for other reasons) and YouTube's often very one-sided attacks on channels and content whilst ignoring other material, and the pattern continues.
ThisVid is an alternative for video content, but it has some 'more obscure', to be polite, kinks littering its pages. Even there, the ENF based content seems to be greatly outnumbered by the ENM, and in most cases the ENF are set as private, with the ENM as public. Again, these have varied reasons for the public/private choices, but the balance is off.
Speaking of ThisVid, the scenes of male nudity from TV/movies, from all round the world, far outweigh those for female nudity (and that's with my preferences set as straight, so Christ knows what would show up if I set it to gay!). This has been a growing trend in modern media, and to pretend there is a fair balance currently, is misleading at best. I won't list all the examples, but it's plain to see from soap operas, through advertising, and even to the MCU of all places 😂
Yes, there are still examples of the nasty underbelly of female objectification. But as with most attempts to rebalance, we have a swing too far the other direction. Now male nudity is the acceptable trope, and the allowed 'just for fun' entertainment. Any suggestion of swapping the gender for the scene will be met with accusations of sexism and misogyny, as the standard today is mainly leaning one way only.
I agree with Palmie, that the overlap is there, and that certain scenarios can be fun to watch, or even inspire the idea of a follow-up story. But this site should predominantly be anchored in its ENF foundations. My concern is one of 'mission creep', and that the balance would sway, as I've seen within some of the examples I outlined above.
There! Warned you it was rant time! Sorry 😂😂
I'm sure that even with my overly long post, some of the finer context of my points may have been buried in my initial argument. Please feel free to call me out, and I will gladly attempt to clarify any statement that I may have written with too broad a stroke. 🙂
As always, no offence intended, merely sharing my opinion, and open to alternative views.
The TLDR version:
I'm all for genuine equality. Please, have all the exposed male arse and cock on screen that you want! But perhaps it's best to have a separate site, for a separate niche? 😉
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I'm not going to nitpick the whole rant, but I just went for the easiest and quickest to verify with cold hard numbers. I went to ThisVid to check your claims:
"the ENF based content seems to be greatly outnumbered by the ENM" - I searched ENM and got just over 7000 video results, and I searched ENF and got just under 9000. objectively, ENF isn't even outnumbered by ENM, let alone greatly outnumbered
"in most cases the ENF are set as private, with the ENM as public" - I looked at the first page of both my searches. for ENM, 22 of the videos were private. for ENF, 24 were private. incredibly close to each other, barely any difference between how many are privated in one or the other.
you say that "to pretend there is a fair balance currently, is misleading at best" as if things have gone too far towards ENM, even though it hasn't even hit the 50/50 equal balance point yet. I'm not arguing about how you feel, I'm sure it appears to you like there is way more ENM than ENF content there... but that doesnt line up with the actual facts. I hope you find it reassuring that the actual numbers show that your perception that it has "swung too far the other direction" and is "mainly leaning one way only" is not true.
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